The last movie you saw...

[dinky]

see i preferred spidey 2 over spidey 1 as it was more action and less blah blah gubbins,

I don't think there's any question that 2 was the best of the series on all counts. but I wasn't wild about it the first time. especially the conversation between aunt may and peter about needing heroes. I was kind of squirming in my seat. but in subsequent viewings, I have to admit, it works well. it still has this kind of "banners out and trumpets blaring" feel to it that I dislike, but it's not this super slow down waste that I originally felt. it is integral to the major theme(s) of the movie. and that is aunt may's role in their relationship.

now I haven't watched one minute of jericho</i> ever. but I'm fairly certain it's supposed to be taken seriously, and I know black adder</i> is not, as I've seen a DVD's worth of eps of that one. so I'm thinking a similarity between them is not a good thing.

[maxpayne2409]

well like i said blackadder goes forth, which has a really poignant scene at the end where in world war 1 they all have the big push over the trenches to face the onslaught of enemy machine gun fire and certain death ot try and beat the hun, and it's done in slow motion, with lines played over the top that they have said, and then it fades to black with explosions etc, and reappears as a poppy field in rememberance of the soldiers who fell, hence the similarity

[spudthedestroyer]

why would you go see it except to piss on it?

/me pulls dinky's face out of sam raimi's bum

Because the first one was okay and its one of the big movies of the year, and i like movies. That and i have friends, and people liked the different ones in the franchise*. I'm not going to condemn them without seeing them, i'm surprised you'd expect that Of course its not as shit as x3, but it was pretty damn shite. I'd give it a 3 or 4 out of 10.

i liked the first one, i liked bits of the 2nd (in fact made my own edit about 40 min shorter) but the 3rd was a fuckn disaster!!!

+1 Well that's pretty much it, except replace liked with "thought it was okay" for the first.

* 8 of us went to see it, the two lasses liked the first two, two of us didn't think either weren't very special but the first one was okay, one liked the first but not the second, and the others prefered the second. A big fat zero liked the third though, the lack of any strong editing and the random cobbling of scenes seemed to have been the biggest flaw, but it just didn't go down well

The SFX looked much worse than they should have been, i'd call your bluff. You know i get annoyed by bad cgi, or when its used when it doesn't need to be. Obviously this film needed it for most things. That said all of spider-man's 3d work has been very studenty in quality compared to movies in the same price bracket, and the whole spider-man animation has been pretty poor in all three films. There's one or two scenes they keep repeating that look good, but then there's a lot that just don't look very good. The swinging and jumping has looked lousy in all three movies, the wall climbing looks a lot better. The venom looked okay, but nothing i've not seen before and it hardly covers up the crappy looking action scenes that they've had three films to "patch" now . Someone made a "test render" joke in reply to a question about why it looked poor. They improve, but they've looked weak each time and frankly, animation and action is the only thing the film had to fallback on since the comic moments don't hold the film together... combined with the crap editing and lack of direction it just doesn't hold viewer attention as well as a long film needs to.

I've probably pissed off the people i know work in cgi with that, but i'm not a fan of the spider-man movies. I really didn't think the venom stuff was overly impressive though, even though it wasn't bad... except with the brocke creature fella.

I'm honestly very forgiving of flawed animation only when there's an appealing style to it, and the stuff just didn't cut it for me, other wise i will and do rag on it.

I don't have raimi glasses, but he used to make good movies about a decade ago... everyone knows evil dead r0x0rz:)

i don't go to the cinema for anything american,

lol, that's sounding like good advice.

I saw Hot Fuzz which was great, then saw 300 which sucked, then saw spider-man 3 which sucked. Next up is 28 weeks later for me too, if i can convince people to go see it... i'm lending out 28 days later. Hopefully will be able to see it next week or so.

There was a trailer for it before spider-man3 and i prefered that trailer to spider-man 3

There was also a trailer for fantastic four 2 with the silver surfer, now that film looks diabolically terrible and the CGI in those films is beyond shockingly terrible. At least spiderman 3 won't be that bad, well I'd guess... if i can be arsed seeing ff2, which i doubt. I thought silver surfer wasn't a bad guy?

[dinky]

ah. well to hear you rag on it, it sure seems like you have more than a passing interest. I don't pick apart movies that I don't care</i> about. my bad if you do.

[I've probably pissed off the people i know work in cgi with that, but i'm not a fan of the spider-man movies. I really didn't think the venom stuff was overly impressive though, even though it wasn't bad... except with the brocke creature fella.

eddie brock + the symbiote = venom. black costumed spidey is just spidey under the influence of the symbiote suit. venom</i> looked very good, and black suit was also done well (I'm not talking about the web swinging; I mean the suit, which is different from every other suit only in one shot: where he tears it off). and yes, those are minute parts of the movie. what's impressive</i> is that it really IS venom. they adapted him to the screen very well. it's still an adaptation, but it's also true to venom visually, motivationally, and even (I thought) the audio was perfect for venom.

anyway, about silver surfer:

he enters the marvel universe as a "bad guy" from the human perspective. he's the herald to galactus. Galactus is this kind of primeval being left over from the cosmos before it was the cosmos (if that makes any sense). like he's what left of the life before the big bang of the marvel universe or something like that. anyway, silver surfer is his herald. so when surfer first comes into the marvel comics (i.e., fantastic four), he's a bad guy. but over the course of the comics he ends up fighting with the FF to avert the coming of galactus to earth. think of genie in aladdin</i> who had "phenomenal, cosmic powers." then when he's no longer bound to the lamp, he has "semi-phenomenal, nearly cosmic powers." I believe the same thing happens to surfer. although he's still generally more powerful than you basic FF or X-Men or Superman.

all that mumbojumbo aside, it's pretty clear from the 2 minute trailer that dr. doom is going to manipulate surfer and the FF are going to be fuct until surfer makes the pivotal decision to side with the FF against doom (whether galactus figures into all of this is doubtful imo but still up in the air - I'd image that would the plan for FF3 if they can get that far).

[maxpayne2409]

i thought galactus was a destroyer of worlds or something, like really really really huge, i don't see how they would fit him into the story really, not visually anyway, and definately not competently.

Now a movie of the "Marvel Zombies" mini comics, would be nice if done well, but i imagine it would never happen due to the MASSIVE cost of acquiring all those licenses for hulk, spidey, captain america, silver surfer, etc et

[maxpayne2409]

Spud you may laugh at this, i know i did

[dinky]

nice!

yes, galactus "eats worlds." that's kind of why I was surprised silver surfer became the focus of the second movie. now that you mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if they cut his ties with galactus. I mean...the initial contact with earth and the manipulation by dr. doom will all work w/o galactus. it leaves a real void to fill for surfer though. not just why does he exist or where he gets his power, but the fact that he's kind of an indentured servant to galactus makes his crisis of conscience more palatable, I think.

'course, I think this movie looks worlds better than the first. and I thought the first was alright but shallow. really, if you think about it, it was a typical marvel superhero comic. very traditional. nothing remotely deep. and I actually like the way that in the preview, the surfer just throttles the FF (who are waaaay overrated on the hero meter anyway). didn't even notice the fx. liquid metal, basically. not much better or worse than T2. don't think it has to be. far from an expert. but he sure looked and acted like the SS that I remember.

edit: WHOOPS!

all this talk about comics movies led to premature submitulation. I just got back from fracture</i>, the anthony hopkins, ryan gosling movie. it was good. I solved the thing 20 minutes in (which is as soon as it happens), and I'm not usually very quick with these movies. so that's prolly not a good sign. but it was interesting. would have been better if I HADN'T known the key to the riddle for the better part of the movie. I don't see all the hoopla for ryan gosling here. he was good. or, he wasn't bad, anyway. iunno. got smallville on the dvr. hoping it's better than last week's.

[dinky]

smallville. was decent. looks like next week might be the season finale? iunno. whatever.

[maxpayne2409]

liquid metal, basically. not much better or worse than T2

concidering theres about 10 years difference and a helluva lot of money between them i'd say it is a pretty big problem

[dinky]

2 things:

1) T2 looks as good now as it did then. It was that good and revolutionary.

2) The basic "look" is the same, but the new movie demands a lot more plasticity - the whole trailer is SS going through shit and reshaping matter. the sequences are a lot more demanding than in T2. but that's kinda beside the point. I really only meant that he looks like a glossier version of the T-1000, which is a logical and acceptable manner of communicating the matter transformation abilities. cgi shots of him going through buildings and such looks a lot closer to Matrix, and I imagine that's intentional in a copycat way.

[dinky]

bloodrayne</i>. yep, the uwe boll special. it was bad. I guess it just wasn't as bad as I'd expected. I mean, it was the kind of bad that you would expect a made-for-tv movie on sci-fi channel to be. except for Kristanna Loken's boobies. lesbi-friend or not, that girl's got it goin' on. I'll give her that. lots of skipping around, plot leaps, etc. there wasn't a single character that was complete (and I'm talking "complete" in the shallow tradition of hollywood action and comic book movies). but there was really just one moment where I thought I was in a D-movie: the closing montage. it just made no sense. or it did make sense but was so terrible that it couldn't have been meant to be what it was. there's also this shot that he ripped off of conan the destroyer. come to think of it, that's what this movie was, more than any kind of vampire adventure, it was like a generic conan the barbarian knockoff. but with better tits. definitely a good idea to watch the unrated version.

[maxpayne2409]

LIAR, Arnold has perfect tits

[dinky]

well...you CAN milk anything with teets.

[MyK]

@ Titus Arnold

Watched a shit load of recent TV stuff as hadn't had much spare time lately but hey, now it's weekend and way too much of good weather and sun for my pale-green image What? I like to scare ppl Anyway...

Lost - not all that bad episode at all and reveals quite a lot. I think I'm slowly getting its point, but I wouldn't bet on it though. But if I'm right I know a lot of ppl will hate where it's going

24 - it's getting ridiculous. All that blunt personal relations make me puke. I never watched "Dallas" or any soaps for the matter but this show sure looks to be going that way fast forward

Penn & Teller - Loved the intro, ep was boring. They must have run out of ideas by now or something cuz not only are they repeating themselves neither Pen nor Teller were funny in this ep. Mount Rushmore is a problem? Who gives a ****! They can mount my rushomore with a pair of those hooters they love to show once in a while within the show though

Heroes - Nice one only it felt like the editing was not at its best. Like the ending that just abruptly cuts into "to be continued..." black screen and similar. Hope that's not due to some budget revisions

Jericho - was cool ep and loved that tank scene. Hope this is not last we've seen of it.

ReGenesis - dunno what to think of this one. I get sort of a feeling it's going downstream just can't point my finger at anything particular. Also hated the editing. WTF were those 15 fps drive shots??? Lame!

Well, there you go. I still have Supernatural, My Name is Earl, and ER waiting for me so... tooteeloo!

[maxpayne2409]

Jericho - was cool ep and loved that tank scene. Hope this is not last we've seen of it

if you read a post i made a few posts back you will see that it has been picked up (along with heroes) for a second season

was so bored earlier i watched and episode of chucklevision that was just on, my god they seriously need to be shot by now

[MyK]

...it has been picked up (along with heroes) for a second season

/*me pongs nakkid round the room in celebration
/*mom enters the room

[dinky]

/MyK enters mom.

motherfucker!

[MyK]

Well, I'm from continental Europe so that'd be pretty normal, which I ain't

[maxpayne2409]

:lol: Well, I'm from continental Europe so that'd be pretty normal, which I ain't

It's only continental if you do her up trap 2

[dinky]

yeah. I understand. you were just walking along, tripped and accidentally stuck your dick in your mum's one way street. nothing to see here. move along. move along.

s'for the greater good, y'see?