Canada Fight Back

[maxpayne2409]

while not exactly scifi or movie related and it probably won't change much but it's still a step in the right direction

Some very big names in Canadian music (Barenaked Ladies, Avril Lavigne, Sarah McLachlan, Chantal Kreviazuk, Sum 41, Sloan among others) have come out against P2P lawsuits, against statutory damages, against DRM, and against anti-circumvention legislation

Fronted by its CRIA (Canadian Recording Industry Association of America), the Big Four Organized Music cartel is trying to turn Canada into a mini-America where whatever the entertainment industry dictates, happens.

Now, as Geist points out, Canadian musicians and others have decided to take a stand in a new coalition called, appropriately, the Canadian Music Creators Coalition.

Members include, Barenaked Ladies, Avril Lavigne, Sarah McLachlan, Chantal Kreviazuk, Sum 41, Stars, Raine Maida (Our Lady Peace), Dave Bidini (Rheostatics), Billy Talent, John K. Samson (Weakerthans), Broken Social Scene, Sloan, Andrew Cash and Bob Wiseman.

In the US, it's now routine for the Big Four, Warner Music, Vivendi Universal, EMI and Sony BMG, to fire subpoenas at music lovers, including young children, implying the documents amount to 'prosecutions'.

Some 19,000 men, women and children have become terrified victims. And the record labels want to be able to launch their bizarre sue 'em all marketing campaign in Canada, and elsewhere in the world.

They call music lovers thieves, although nothing has been stolen. They say a download equals a lost sale, although this has never, ever been demonstrated. They say file sharing is a crime, although there's no such offence.

Imagine. Imagine if other artists around the world followed the Canadian lead

Full Article

[spudthedestroyer]

oldish news, the independant labels in canada have paid legal fees for p2p defendants over the past few years.

Good stuff on their part, its covered in the piracy documentary which is mainly about canada:

About the Documentary...
Each day, millions of youths from Canada and around the world download music and movies off of the Internet. This epidemic of "unauthorized" downloading has been cited by the record and film industries as being the prime cause for billions in losses. Politicians have come under tremendous pressure to pass legislation on the issue.


site link:
http://www.piracydocumentary.com/
TPB link to torrent:
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3481113

Think this pertains more to canada but it does have alot of common issues with everywhere.... dl'n now ill let ya know how it is
:cheers:
9.8kbps down at TPB... seed bitches!!!!

oops... forgot the nfo :>

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I don't know about anyone but it makes me want to punch the head of the RIAC's face in the ignorant prick. Has no comprehension of what's going on, lies out of his ass and then goes on about the "strain of touring". Strain of touring? These artists make MILLIONS of dollars, and what... they are supposed to sit around on their asses? Boo-hoo.

[maxpayne2409]

the entire music industry these days annoys me, half the bands that are actually talented rarely get any airtime because the music industry insists we all must listen to the lastest soundalike boy/girl groups, or the same unoriginal rip off hiphop, rap etc that doesnt sound original in the least, for instance there is a song in teh charts at the mo that's on lincs fm all the time recently, and it bvlatantly rips off the intro from soft cell - tainted love, so many songs nowadays rip off bits of old successful songs or just cover them (99% of the time badly) instead of thinking of original material, and then they have the nerve to (try and) charge us £12-£15 for 10-12 songs per album when you can easily fit 20 songs per album for instance and even then cases cost what? 3p max? if you buy bulk (like companies surely do), same goes for the cds, now they claim all the money is needed for advertising, but thats still way too expensive for what little it actually does

i agree though spud about touring, they make more money from touring then album sales anyway always have, i read something the other day about RHCP guitarist "flea" who was blasting music downloading as stealing money from him, wtf, the rhcp are one of the top bands for years, they have made millions, sounds more like he is jsut jumping onn the bandwaggon, saying that the rhcp aren't even a glimmer of what they used to be now anyway

the worst bands are U2 and Aerosmith (or Poo 2 and AeroShite) who were the first major bands to back the RIAA against downloading, fucking bono thinks hes practically god anyway, there is no way any band really loses money from it

i personally have found many good bands who i would've never heard of through downloading (Ra, 91 Suite as examples) hell 91 Suite are from spain and would've never got recognised in england but i class them as one of my favourite bands now

[spudthedestroyer]

Well the worst thing about paying for downloads/cds/tapes is that according the RIAA you don't own that song, your merely paying for a license for the music ala. software licensing.

I hate licensing of all forms for consumer products, imo. if you pay for something you should own it. Software included. You can then hack the f*ck out of it, or do whatever you want. You paid for it. Selling it is fine too. Copying and selling however is the only thing i agree should be restricted.

I had no interest in music before napster. Not a bullshit trumped up excuse, i quite literally owned no cds before napster.

[maxpayne2409]

yeah i know what you mean there, to me if you pay for something you own it, and i also don't believe in copying and selling, i admit i have copied things for friends but never for money (and not for sexual favours either) i mean a blank disc is what? 0.000012p or something crazy in reality

some people say "music is my life" thats always bullshit, music is just a hobby and a passtime really, if music is someones life they really don't have very high aspirations (sp?) to greatness do they